How to Record Sound for Video: Dual System Sync Sound
For professionally produced films, the sound is usually recorded separate from the camera by a dedicated audio recorder. Why? Usually, this allows the crew to record higher quality sound. Recording sound this way is called Dual System or Sync Sound. In this episode, we show you how to record dual system sound so that you can increase the overall production value of your video and film projects.
If you’d like to learn how to record and post process your sound, be sure to have a look at my sound for video courses at http://school.learnlightandsound.com
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Gear used or mentioned in this episode:
Tascam DR-60DmkII Audio Recorder (good option for a beginner who wants to record higher quality sound)
RODE NTG2 Shotgun Microphone (XLR output)
RODE VideoMic Pro (3.5mm plug output)
Sanken COS-111D Lavalier Microphone (3.5mm plug output)
Aputure Light Storm COB120d LED Light (Key Light)
Aputure Light Storm LS1s LED Panel Light (Background and hair lights)
Panasonic GH4 m4/3 Camera
Panasonic Lumix 12-35mm f/2.8 Lens
Olympus 45mm f/1.8 Lens
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Thanks Chris. I am wondering how to set this up using two recording devices? I’ll be running radio mic through one and rode through the other
Hi Curtis, I’m about to make a live stream video-classes, just teachers sit on a table with lavaliers. My Canon Vixia however has only 3,5mm mic output. Do you think is wise invest in something like a Kopul XLR adapter and buy a lavalier mic with XLR conector or Im safe with my actual 3,5mm lav connector? Sorry for the long post and thanks in advance!
I have the Rode Video Mic Pro and I use it with the Panasonic G7. I wanted to improve the audio quality and bought the Zoom H5. However, the audio quality is worse with the Video Mic pro plugged into H5….
Hi Curtis 🙂 I have question – how I can make onlain facebook video, with good voice. For example, I use phone with internet, but how to conect audio with phone or camera and to translate in FB?
Thanks for such helpful information. I am having problems with my WAV files though. I am currently editing a video for which I had the audio recorded separately. After doing the sinking, the audio only plays on computers but never on cellphones except when using headphones. Sounds strange to me. has somebody encountered such problems. I tried to convert into different formats but nothing. Can you help?
I just bought this, I hook the boom mic in channel one, and it does not record in stereo. I have it set to dual stereo. Any suggestions?
I have a question sir. What audio recorder do you recommend when you use DSLR with 3 axis gimbal?
Great channel! subbed!
wow! you have a guitar recorded too! i just heard!!!! . . i need help with that, too! . . and im trying to finish a wesite through go central-go daddy photo-info for now by about dec2O17 ish 35mm film and digital stuff!!!! then around dec ish 2018 (yes, 2018! maybe 2019!) I’m hoping to complete a music vid!!!!
Curtis can you please Help me out I cannot get a straight answer, hopefully you can help. Simple scenario. Lectrosonic Trans/Reciever on Ch 1 and Sennheiser Shotgun on Ch 2. Shot gun is backup. Can you give me some advice on the way to set this up to get 2 separate channels Mono. Its boggling my mind. This is with the Tascam DR 60DmkII.
I’m just a little confused. Apart from the low-noise pre-amps, the major advantage
with one of these would be avoiding having to sync in post. Is it (not) possible to send the recorded audio to your camera to avoid having to sync?
Is this the cheapest Tascam brand recorder that allows XLR cable to feed into it?
Can I use timecode with this and my DSLR and if so, how does that work. Im using a cannon t6s
How well will ths setup work going from this Tascam to a Android smartphone? I don’t want to synced audio everyth me if I’m run and gun. Thanks
Thank you for these classes, are very important for me!
or will 48khz/24bit be the best for youtube? . . i like the info you share and the speed you deliver it!!!! thank you!!!! . . what do i get if i subscribe to you?? music/software stuff? synth stuff? drum machine stuff? photo/vid/lighting stuff? finishing compressing/ mastering stuff with photoshop cs6/elements 15-garageband and waves stuff and project sam? . . do you have headaches sometimes like i do?? . . seems like "no"!!!! cause if your calm cool-collect demeaner!!!!
Hi Curtis, have you had any experience with electret microphones on the DR-60mkii?
Can I use the Tascam shown in this video to record from a musical instrument, a guitar for example?
How do you keep track of what audio file goes with what video file? How can you set your equipment up to start and stop with only one button?
Great video! Very useful for me as a beginner film maker. Thanks for this video.
This is a bit off topic but have you used the NTG3? I’ve read it is a bit of a power hog so should I get something besides the zoom H5 to phantom power it? I really enjoy your videos keep making them!
Why did you clap twice? That seems like really bad practice! Otherwise, I liked this video very much. I’m preparing a class on basic filmmaking and watching a lot of basic how-to videos to see how others are doing it. Our double system equipment is different, but I like the clear way you covered the basic concepts.
Great video, thanks! Is this future episode on "how to make the audio louder in post" already out?
Great video as always!
I own a Tascam DR 40 (and a boom, a hypercardioïd mic and a cheap shotgun): the way you recommend to set the gain not only prevents distortion, it also enhances the Signal/Noise ratio! This is because the DR 40 preamps are cheap (it makes sense: the device is super low priced) : I can get a decent amount of gain out of them, but it kills the S/N ratio (which overall kills the audio quality).
I’d rather work with a relatively weak signal than with a noisy track, it is much easier to process.
Context: I’m a no-budget sound engineer for a no-budget fiction.
Thank you Curtis for sharing your knowledge and experience. I’m using Final Cut from 2009. Is there a trick to Loudness matching in that version?
very helpful video! I just got a Tascam DR60D and a Rode NTG4+ and it will help me a lot! Thank you
Thank for your valuable info and classes. I am beginning to understand some of the points better. However, reluctant to buy. I would like to record audio out of a sound mixer/board. Which one is better suited for line level recording. Thank you for your help and professionalism.
how do you sync audio if you have say 20+ cuts in a video what is the quick way if you know of any?
Hello. Do you have video on slate tone?
I’m very interested in more information as I have the very same Tascam DR60D II as used in this video and I struggle to properly understand how to set it up and get the best out of it.
Thanks so much for making all of these videos. Of all Youtubers making this kind of content, you seem the most sincere and helpful. I’m a huge fan and I appreciate your work.
–John from Minneapolis
I love to sync video and audio its all about the fun
Im shooting at doc on an opera soprano singer and wanted to know which is the best audio recorder out there, that i should use?
someone in another vour
video of yours directed a comment to me . . "he" told me (paraphrasing) to pay people for their teaching services-like how i would/should want to be paid . . with my daughter and not having a car and writing for a symphonic sound, edm, house, cure, punk, bluegrass, etc . . i just have to be patient!!!! 🙂
Curtis Judd thank you…..Peace
Hi Curtis, I just bought the DR60D MKII and I try with a Rode video micro and a Samson C02 and in both cases with the gain set to high an the volume knobs all the way up I can barely reach -12db speaking directly into the mics from 5cm away, what I’m doing wrong? do you think my recorder have a problem? I did test the rode video micro directly into the camera and works fine so I know is not the microphone that has a problem.
Have you worked with the Zoom H4N. I got an offer on a 1 year old, but never used for 130$
But I am actually considering the Tuscan DR-60 mark2, because of the volume nobs. I want to use it for interview, but primary for short films and I think Tascam would be easier on adjustments – especially because I would properly operate the camera and another one the audio.
Which would you recommend?
for utmost fidelity!!!! . . were your settings of 48khz and 24bit the best for youtube? . . i owe you a trillion dollars for this info!!!! . . should i use 96khz/24bit to yield the best sound?? . . and keep this in premiere elements 15 and 2016 garage band and 2016 logic??
Excellent video as always Curtis, Thank you!
I have purchased myself a program being Plurel Eyes which works so well for syncing any audio and especially handy for multiple camera shoots.
As well I have the Zoom H5/H6 create backup files at -12 db for peaking issues.
Have to thank you for those tips which you provided in previous videos.
Highly recommend anyone watching your videos to subscribe and hit that notification bell.
Your channel is extremely valuable to learning film making.
Which camera do you use to record your videos?
Does anybody know if I can use this set up if I’m filming on an iPhone?
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Hi Curtis So I’ve had my mix pre 6 for a few months now and I’m looking to connect my Aputure Deity condenser Mic, powered through my XLR cable into my Mix Pre 6 as the microphone for my iPad Pro (2017). I’ve tried using a 3.5 male to 3.5 male from the auxiliary output to the headphone jack and I’ve tried adjusting the input menu to camera but I still can’t figure out how to record sound to my iPad in real time. Could you please tell me what I’m doing wrong? Excellent videos btw! I purchased off of your recommendation and I’m glad I did
I have noticed that you change your backgrounds from a light grey and a warm grey and sometimes a blue background. they are always perfectly lit. I was wondering if you are using a green screen and then filling in the background or are you using color paper or white paper with gels on the lights?
Great video, I learned a lot! I’m holding off on post op syncing for now but I feel comfortable doing it thanks to your help. Right now I am going to record from the audix scx1hc mic to Tascam dr-60dmkII to the GH5 camera to avoid syncing. I know you like the tascam a lot, but how do you think that compares to the new panasonic dmw-xlr1 microphone adapter which won’t record audio for post syncing? Do you think the tascam will still likely outperfom the dmw-xlr1? The price is significantly more with the dmw-xlr1 which I think is in large to the portability and compactness, but do you typically sacrifice sound quality in smaller preamps like this? Here’s the link: https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1304877-REG/panasonic_dmw_xlr1_xlr_microphone_adapter.html
Hi Curtis, just subscribed…great and informative Channel. Was wondering how you would hook up 2 wireless lavs for best quality sound when shooting with DSLR. Have a zoom H5 and thinking to hook it to two lavs via an 3.5 to XLR adapter and sync it post production. Another option seems to be into a preamp like Beachtek and directly into the camera and avoid post production but I"m assuming any preamp no matter how good will still lose quality if still going back into the DSLR preamp? Any suggestions?
I decided to switch to this format for my channel. looking forward to using the loudness normalization techniques on this channel. glad FCPX has a synchronize feature!
Dude, Great video! Thanks
awesome big help